Immigration never a problem again? (there hasn't been a moment in the last 2 centuries w/o a immig problem)
English were not migrating, they were conquering!
It's so retarded...the whole thing, is not even funny and it is sure way away frm historical facts or even an interesting analogy of the current migration debate...
No wonder! If a Gringa, working on migration issues, living in Mexico posts that as a good thing to watch...there is no hope fellows!
Hi, I came here from the Technorati link on the DeBenedittis letter in the Washington Post. I enjoyed this video and have shown it to a few friends. I was somewhat surprised at the reactions -- it turns out to be something of a Rorschach test. Personally, I was hard pressed to find a single sympathetic character, but ultimately I thought it was a warning regarding the dangers of illegal immigration. Another person thought it took the La Raza point of view and was sympathetic toward illegal immigrants. Some of it, I suppose, turns on how you read the eagles -- are they wise men (stoner wise men?) or blithering idiots -- and the narration at the end -- hope-filled alternative history or unadulterated sarcasm? I saw the Indians as divided and myopic, arguing over how to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, and the Pilgrims as self-obsessed and reckless. I do also wonder what the authors would consider to be the modern equivalent of firewater-and-poxy-blankets...
Thank you both for your comments. José, I believe the video was intended to be ironic (and not subtly so). It asks the question, "who is the illegal alien, pilgrim?" You obviously missed the point here. And your opinion, that a gringa cannot comment on immigration, or be an advocate of the undocumented (read the blog, please), is simply absurd.
Anonymous, I think it's very interesting that your "focus group" of sorts interpreted this differently. There are a large number of these video clips on the web, many of them are ambiguous regarding their politics. The idea, I think, is to see the English as interlopers that caused upheaval with their settlement.
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Lived happy together?
Immigration never a problem again? (there hasn't been a moment in the last 2 centuries w/o a immig problem)
English were not migrating, they were conquering!
It's so retarded...the whole thing, is not even funny and it is sure way away frm historical facts or even an interesting analogy of the current migration debate...
No wonder! If a Gringa, working on migration issues, living in Mexico posts that as a good thing to watch...there is no hope fellows!
Hi, I came here from the Technorati link on the DeBenedittis letter in the Washington Post. I enjoyed this video and have shown it to a few friends. I was somewhat surprised at the reactions -- it turns out to be something of a Rorschach test. Personally, I was hard pressed to find a single sympathetic character, but ultimately I thought it was a warning regarding the dangers of illegal immigration. Another person thought it took the La Raza point of view and was sympathetic toward illegal immigrants. Some of it, I suppose, turns on how you read the eagles -- are they wise men (stoner wise men?) or blithering idiots -- and the narration at the end -- hope-filled alternative history or unadulterated sarcasm? I saw the Indians as divided and myopic, arguing over how to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, and the Pilgrims as self-obsessed and reckless. I do also wonder what the authors would consider to be the modern equivalent of firewater-and-poxy-blankets...
Thoughts?
Thank you both for your comments. José, I believe the video was intended to be ironic (and not subtly so). It asks the question, "who is the illegal alien, pilgrim?" You obviously missed the point here. And your opinion, that a gringa cannot comment on immigration, or be an advocate of the undocumented (read the blog, please), is simply absurd.
Anonymous, I think it's very interesting that your "focus group" of sorts interpreted this differently. There are a large number of these video clips on the web, many of them are ambiguous regarding their politics. The idea, I think, is to see the English as interlopers that caused upheaval with their settlement.
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